Orange Juice Marble Stain

Solutions for Cleaning Marble Juice Stains, Glass-Rings & Dull Spots

Solutions for Cleaning Marble Juice Stains, Glass-Rings & Dull Spots

QUESTION:

Help! My son spilled orange juice on the marble countertop surface, and it stained...what can I do??? Thank you!

ANSWER:

Cleaning marble juice stains and spots isn't too tough. "Stains" come in two varieties, though, so diagnosis is key to the solution.

A true marble stain happens when something (orange juice... or any colored or oily liquid) is absorbed into the marble creating a darker colored spot.

A second type of stain that is not really a "stain" is called "etching."

Etching happens when an acidic substance (like orange juice... or many others including most household cleaners) corrodes the shiny surface layer leaving a dull and lighter colored spot behind. Nothing is absorbed and nothing is on the marble countertop or floor tile.

A third possibility is that you have both a stain and an etch mark caused by the orange juice corroding the marble and then absorbing into the stone.

And FYI... Either a marble stain or etching (or both in the same spot) can occur with just about any type of juice.... grape juice, apple juice, lemon juice, lemonade, lime juice, tomato juice, etc... since most juices have a color and are also acidic.

The remedies for each problem (cleaning marble stains vs. repairing marble etch mark) are completely different.

If you have a stain, then you won't be able to clean it in traditional fashion... spray a cleaner on it, etc.

Comprehensive instructions for removing all types of granite and marble stains are provided in the Removing Marble Stains Manual.

If you have an etch mark, then using this ETCH REMOVER / Marble polishing product will fix it and restore the shine and color.

Of course, this product is for use on shiny or "polished" marble (travertine or limestone).

On a "honed" or matte finish you'll need to follow the DIY instructions in the Remove Marble Etching e-book. There isn't a product to use to restore a honed finish, but the method is cheap and easy.

If you have both a stain & etch mark, you'll need to remove the stain first, then restore the etch mark with the above recommended product.

The good news is that you can easily do this yourself!

Both procedures are simple and inexpensive. Most likely you'll completely remove any marble stain or etch mark leaving your countertops looking brand new.

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Juice Stains on Marble Kitchen Countertops

by Colleen
(Fountain Hills, Arizona)

QUESTION:

How do you clean & protect marble kitchen counter tops?

I have several stains from pineapple juice & much etching & water stains. How do I remove them (if I can) & then protect it?

ANSWER:

Marble is a great stone to use for many applications like floors, showers and bathroom vanities. Kitchen countertops.... not so much.

As you are finding out, marble is reactive to acidic foods and drinks like pineapple juice. Acids will corrode and "etch" marble leaving dull and discolored spots.

For this reason most designers and fabricators will warn clients away from installing marble as a kitchen countertop.

Although you can remove etch marks on polished marble (not honed) using Marble Polishing Paste it will be a on ongoing marble repair chore since the only way to prevent etching is to avoid contact with acids... impossible in a kitchen.

Marble countertops do not stain easy especially when polished. It can be nearly stain-proof, but it does etch easy... in seconds in fact.

Etch marks look like "ghost" marks or "water stains", so people think marble "stains" easy, but staining and etching are two completely different issues.

However, once etched the marble does become much more susceptible to staining. So, when you spill pineapple juice it will etch the marble quickly and if you don't clean it soon it will start to absorb and may also stain.

So, use the paste for any lighter colored and dull etch marks you have.

If you also have stains (which are always darker) then you'll need to follow the instructions in the Removing Marble Stains Manual (see link in previous question).

As noted you may have staining and etching in the same spot. So, remove the stain first, then repair the etching.

The paste is also good for buffing out light scratches, which is another issue you have to contend with marble kitchen countertops vs. granite, which is much harder and nearly impossible to scratch.

Going forward, you should use cutting boards, trivets and coasters and follow all other marble cleaning do's & dont's to help minimize contact with acidic substances during food prep.

This is the only prevention. Well, there are a couple permanent topical coatings that can block etching, but I (and most stone pros) will recommend that you NOT apply such coatings... they can cause more problems than they solve despite the salesman's claims.

Sealing won't do anything for etching. Sealing only protects against staining (substances absorbing), which shouldn't be much a problem for you anyway.

In fact, it's quite likely that your marble (if polished as I assume) is so non-absorbent that it won't even absorb a sealer.

Also, be sure to use only products safe for cleaning marble. Most brand-name and common cleaners are too alkaline and harsh for marble and will also etch.

Sorry you have to find out all this after the fact, but that's the deal. Marble countertops are still very durable, it just requires much more effort and marble maintenance to keep looking newish than granite does.

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Marble Table Lime Stain

by Beverly
(El Paso, Texas U.S.)

QUESTION:

I recently bought my marble table which I only use for guests. The first time I had guests over, one of them accidentally placed a lime on the table top.

Now I have a white marble stain and I have only tried to take it out with soap and water, but have not succeeded.

I'm afraid to try something harsh. Can you please help?

ANSWER:

Yes I can Beverly! Unbeknownst to your guest, lime and lime juice is acidic (like most fruit juice) and that is bad for a marble table.

Marble is a calcite-based stone that reacts with acids instantly. The acid corrodes or eats into the stone making dull spots and white spots that people often call "water stains".

Sometimes the result is a "glass ring". Actually, the process is called "etching" and it isn't caused by water (not pure water anyway).

Etching is common with marble, although it isn't actually a "stain". These are two separate species.

Too often consumers and homeowners are not properly educated by sales reps on how to care for marble and natural stone.

Nothing you can do about it to prevent it except use coasters, etc. to avoid contact with acidic foods and don't use harsh chemicals to clean... use a specially formulated Granite Countertop & Marble Cleaning spray for safe cleaning.

It's also a common mis-perception that sealing solves this issue...wrong. Sealing has nothing to do with etching. Sealing marble will only retard substances being absorbed causing marble stains.

Etching is a different animal. To remove the little lime spot and restore the color and shine you'll need to use a specialty marble polishing product.

You can sometimes find the right stuff at your hardware store (it must be specifically for etch marks... not just a "marble polish" which is what is usually in stores) but I'd suggest using our favorite Marble Etching Remover/Polish (linked above).

It's a professional product made just for this issue. Works better than any other we've tried. Just follow the directions and it should do the trick and re-polish the dull spot.

However, just for your information... if the etching is severe (rough surface), it may require professional restoration.

Severe etching rarely happens, so likely nothing for you to worry about. But even if severe enough to require professional marble repair (that's expensive), it's best to apply the etch remover product first. It's very effective.

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Cleaning Marble Lemon Juice Stains

by Naomi

Window ledge with lemon juice limestone stains

Window ledge with lemon juice limestone stains

QUESTION:

We live in a house with marble or granite window ledges (I have no idea which!).

We stupidly made preserves recently involving large jars of lemon juice and salt and sat the jars on the window ledge for several days (not realizing they leaked!)

Now there are large jar shaped white stains on the window ledge. The salt and lemon juices has eaten away the polish and into the stone and I can feel a slight depression in the circles.

Please, can you tell me how we can restore the stone window ledge and it's polish to its former condition?

Thank you!!!
Naomi

ANSWER:

Naomi, Thanks for the picture! That really helps.

The ledge is not granite. It is a very rare granite that will react to acids like marble.

Looks like limestone to me, which is similar to marble in that it is a calcium carbonate based stone that IS reactive to acidic substances.

You have most certainly "etched" the stone... and it looks pretty severe. I'm not surprised that you can feel a depression where the lemon juice ate away the stone.

If the stone was still smooth, without any depression, then you could do it yourself using the Etch Remover Marble Polishing product (see links in first question).

But, I'm afraid with the severity of this etch mark (depressions and likely rough), possibly your only option in this case is to hire a professional stone restorer to come and physically grind down the stone surface until the etch marks are blended in and then re-polish the surface.

Not a do-it-yourself job. Get some recommendations from a local stone warehouse and check references.

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Thanks for your help!
by: Naomi

Thank you very much Ryan!

Obviously it's bad news about our window ledge but at least we know what we have to do now! (And what NOT to do ever again - especially while living in a rental property...)

I've been searching the internet for information about our window ledge for weeks and your website and response is the first real & informative information I've received in the whole time I've been looking.

Thank you again!
Best wishes
Naomi

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Cleaning Juice Stains on Marble Table

by amy
(westbury newyork)

QUESTION:

How do I get juice stains off my marble table please help!

ANSWER:

There are two types of marble "stains". One type is a true stain where something absorbs into the marble and leaves a darker spot.

To remove true stains you'll have to follow the detailed instructions in the Removing Granite & Marble Stains ebook (links above/below) You can't simply clean or scrub them out.

The other type is actually not a stain, but it does create a spot that is lighter than the marble color. People often call them "water spots" or "ghost spot".

It's called "etching". Nothing is absorbed. It occurs due to damage to the marble from corrosion caused by contact with an acidic substance like juice.

The acids in the juice eat away at the marble causing a dull and light-colored spot. No amount of "cleaning" will remove it. In fact, it cannot be "removed" it must be repaired.

Most likely you have an etch mark, although you could have an etch mark and a stain in the same spot. Just remember a stain will be darker and discolored.

Luckily, there is an excellent marble polishing / etch remover product (see links on this page) designed just to fix etch marks on shiny, polished (not honed) marble.

It's easy to use. Just mix, rub on the etch mark with a soft cloth and it will restore the color and shine of mild to moderate etching.

Severe etching where the marble is rough to the touch may require a marble maintenance professional to fix.

The Etch Remover polish is much cheaper of course and severe etching is rare, so that should do the trick for you.

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How To Remove Lemon Juice Marble Stain

QUESTION:

How do you remove a lemon juice stain on a marble countertop?

ANSWER:

Removing marble stains is usually pretty easy unless the stains are old and/or deep, but traditional or common cleaning methods don't work.

However, it's also important to know what kind of "stain" you actually have.

There are two types of "stains" that can occur on marble countertops and floor tile. These two types of spots are completely different from each other (one is not a stain at all) although homeowners call both of them "stains."

Lemon juice will not typically "stain" marble.

A stain occurs when something absorbs into the marble and is always darker in color.

The other type of "stain" that is not actually a stain is called etching and is a known and fairly common marble maintenance issue.

Etching is a mark of corrosion caused by contact with acidic foods and drinks like lemon juice. The acid eats into the surface... like a chemical burn.

Also, etching can be caused by harsh cleaning products, which are most of the common and brand-name household cleaners at the store.

An etch mark will always be lighter in color than the marble. The etch spot will also be dull in color.

Etch marks look like ghost stains on marble and can often only be seen at certain angles.

Lemon juice will etch marble countertops, but typically won't stain it (because not much color to lemon juice). Although other acidic drinks like wine or coffee could both etch and then stain marble.

Got it?

Okay.... fortunately etch marks can be removed on polished (shiny) marble using the Etch Remover (links above/below) which is made just for this problem.

If your marble has a honed (matte, non-reflective) finish, then the paste won't work. You'll have to follow the step-by-step instructions in the Cleaning Marble Secrets e-book.

Once you repair the etch marks, be sure to use coasters, cutting boards, mats, etc. to protect your marble and use ONLY products safe for cleaning marble.

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Apple Juice Marble Stain

by Mary Savage
(Co. Dublin)

QUESTION:

Recently got new marble floor tile in kitchen (light cream marble).

The kids spilled apple juice on a small part of floor and it has left it a bit dull and you can notice splash marks were the apple juice spilled on the floor.

The juice seemed to penetrate through the seal and there are high spots on the floor. Is there anything I can do? Regards Mary.

ANSWER:

Most fruit juices are acidic. Acids will react with marble floor tile and "etch" the surface leaving dull and often lighter-colored spots.

Marble sealers and sealing have nothing to do with etching. Sealers do not create an impenetrable protective shell. They absorb into the marble and work below the surface to slow down absorption of substances and help prevent stains.

Etch marks are not stains. Nothing has absorbed. The acid in the juice has physically damaged and corroded the marble. It's like a chemical burn.

Luckily, mild to moderate etch marks can be repaired on polished marble using the Marble Polishing Etch Remover (links above and below)

On honed (matte finish) marble the paste won't work and you'll have to follow the instructions (which are easy and use common household items) provided in the Restore Etching e-book (find links above and below).

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Aloe Vera Juice Stain

by Ralph
(San Francisco )

QUESTION:

Hello, we accidentally spilled about 4 ounces of aloe vera leaf juice on our bathroom counter, which we think is travertine.

It was left on the countertop for almost a day and left light areas on the brown countertop. It left light rings around the outline of bottles that were on the counter.

Can we polish it with marble cleaner? Thanks, Ralph

ANSWER:

Ralph, travertine is a sister stone to marble. Marble, travertine and limestone all have similar characteristics, so any product made for "marble" can be used for repairing or cleaning travertine as well.

Like marble and limestone, travertine will react with some chemicals and foods/drinks corroding the surface and leaving a dull spot. It's like a burn and called "etching".

The acidic aloe vera juice has etched the surface and it needs to be re-polished.

Since the juice was left on the surface for a long time the etching could be severe. If the etched areas feel rough, then you may need a professional to re-polish the surface.

However, it's usually worth it (much less expensive) to try fixing it yourself first using the Etch Remover Polishing product (see links above and below). Use this only if your countertop has a reflective, gloss-type finish.

If the etch marks are still smooth and just dull, then the marble polish will do the trick no sweat. Yes, it works for travertine exactly like it does for restoring marble etching.

For future care and maintenance, you should use only products safe for cleaning travertine and don't let acidic substances or foods (alcohol, fruit juice, coffee, soda, etc.) come in contact with the surface.

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Dull Lemonade Marble Stain

by andrea
(derbyshire)

QUESTION:

Hi I've spilled lemonade on my cream marble hearth and its gone dull.

Is there anything that can be done to remove the stain?

ANSWER:

Lemonade is acidic like many foods and drinks... fruit juices. Acids will corrode marble, damage the finish and leave dull and discolored spots... it's called "etching" and its a known marble maintenance issue.

It isn't a "stain" though. Nothing is on or in your marble hearth. The marble has been physically corroded by this chemical reaction.

To remove/repair etch marks we recommend using the Etch Remover recommended elsewhere on this page (see links above). It's the best product out there for restoring the shine and cleaning dull marble etch marks.

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Coffee Juice Marble Etch Stains

by Oi Lim
(NSW, Australia)

QUESTION:

The marble table top is white. There are some hot coffee cup stains, juice cup stains and etching on it. How do I clean the stains off?

ANSWER:

First let's clarify... "stains" and "etching" are two different issues.

Stains are always darker than the marble color since something has absorbed into the surface.

Removing stains is easy, but no cleaning product will work since the stain is beneath the surface. So, you have to follow a special procedure depending on what stained the marble.

You'll find complete step-by-step instructions in the Removing Granite & Marble Stains ebook.

Etching is always lighter in color and usually look dull.

Etching is a result of a chemical reaction with acidic foods and drinks like coffee and orange juice. Nothing has absorbed, in fact some marble has been destroyed and removed essentially. It's like a chemical burn.

On polished (shiny) marble you need to use a good ETCH REMOVER / Marble Polishing product (in USA) to quickly and easily repair and re-polish marble etch marks.

In Australia (or any country outside the USA), you'll have to order a different (but equally effective) Etch Remover for International delivery.

On "honed" or any non-polished surface the Etch Remover product should not be used, but you can repair etch marks following the techniques detailed in the Removing Etch Marks ebook (found on same page as "Stain Removal" manual... click link above).

Also, it's helpful to know that you can get stains and etch marks in the same spot. Something like coffee, juice or wine could spill and etch the marble countertop and then absorb to create a stain.

When this occurs you need to remove the stain first, then repair the etch mark.

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thank you Ryan
by: Anonymous

Thank you SO MUCH! such a detailed and helpful answer. Thank you very very much.

Not exactly "rock" solid
by: Anonymous

Upon using this product, I was appalled to notice upon application, it changed absolutely nothing. When consulting my friend who works in the stone industry, he let me know that much more technical work was required to restore my marble. All in all, I will be returning this product, and I advice each customer on here to seek professional advice before making an "emergency" purchase.

"Rock" solid
by: Ryan

Sorry to hear you weren't able to solve your problem although you didn't state what your problem was or what product you used.

The question regarding stains vs. etching was adequately explained so you would be able to determine the difference between stains and etching... why? Because the solutions for each are radically different. You need to know which you have or you won't fix it.

It is the only correct explanation.

This is just rock science... not rocket science. It isn't difficult although many in the stone industry are often mistaken about correct solutions.

The only more "technical" work that would ever be required in the case of a stain or etch mark (besides the solutions provided in the answer above) is that a restoration pro would have to grind down the stone surface until the stained and/or etched marble was removed and then re-finish to a honed or polished finish.

That's it. There simply are not ANY other ways about it.

But typically the damage would have to be very severe etching and/or very old and deep stains for professional help to be required.

I'm guessing you applied the Marble Polish... if you applied the Marble Polish / Etch Remover and "nothing" changed, then you did not have an etch mark... period.

This product was engineered by stone professionals, tested by pros and is used daily by pros all over the country. There is no doubt about it... it works, but only on etch marks... not stains.

So, if you applied it to a stain, then yeah... "absolutely nothing" will change since this product restores etch marks, which are a completely different issue than stains although they are commonly confused.

Since the stone industry is unregulated just about anyone can work in the stone industry regardless of their skill and experience, which goes a long way toward explaining why there is so much bad and plain wrong advice and notions about stone floating around.

Follow your friend's advice if you like, but any true (meaning skilled, knowledgeable and experienced) stone professional will agree that the advice given above is not only absolutely accurate and correct, but also the cheapest and easiest method to solve these problems.


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